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SuRun on Win7+UAC
Redundant, Complementing or Replacement?
Gaurav #1
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Subject: SuRun on Win7+UAC
Hello,

First off, I'd like to thank Kay for the superb SuRun, as I am a long time and overall pleased user on Windows XP systems with a LUA+SRP setup, thanks to guides created by some great folk on the wilders-security forum.

Recently I purchased Windows 7 x64, and I am trying to understand if installing SuRun 1.2.0.9 is useful when configuring Windows 7 with UAC to maximum, and using only a Standard User Account. For example, without SuRun: when installing something, I need to pick the UAC- Run as Administrator when starting the setup, and it provides me with a dialog to enter an admin password.

This works, but the admin password is of a different (Admin) account than the Standard User Account, and this is where I'm confused as I am reminded of the RunAs feature that was already available in WinXP. SuRun was a definite improvement over that approach, because with SuRun, installations would still be done in the user profile of the LUA. So I'm not sure how to interpret UAC's usefullness in-here.

So the questions really are, to anyone who already knows:
- does SuRun have any value over UAC in the above situation?
- Is it still an excellent replacement (while turning off UAC), or could it even replace UAC without comprimising Win7's security (as the underlying architecture has no doubt changed from WinXP).
- Or would you say it can complement UAC, meaning I should utilize both, and if so, what shortcomings of each other do they complement?

I hope anyone can create a clear reference for this comparison, because I'm probably not the first wanting to know this. I'm sorry to say I don't speak/understand german well enough, but I did manage to do a search on this forum first! (armed with google translate)
Sadeghi85 #2
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Hi,

In my experience, it's better to use both: http://ssj100.fullsubject.com/t228-sua-srp-some-questions
SirTaz (Guest) #3
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Subject: SuRun on Win7+UAC
Gaurav,

I run Win7 Pro 64-bit and I run as a standard user with UAC enabled with Max settings.  SuRun will complement UAC... do not disable UAC as many other things depend on it (I.E. Protected mode is just one example).

SirTaz
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